Yo Rated R

Multi platinum Producer Yo Rated R stops by the set to talk it up with Papazoe & Walk da Walk. Rated R goes down memory lane talking about his encounters with industry legends from Rick Ross, being in the same orphanage with DMX, to his time meeting Tupac. Dont miss a great convo!

Transcript

SPEAKER_00 0:00

Live and direct, it's Rated Hog, get the car. No, it's Rated Hall, get your own cars. Multi-platinum music producer. I'm here at the Papa Zoe Show, chilling with the OG. I met him. I love him. He's my brother. He can eat at my house anytime. So can you? Walk the walk. Talk the talk.

SPEAKER_02 0:42

Yo, what up, what up, what up? You already know what it is. It's your man, man, Papa Zoe with the Papa Zoe show with my co host.

SPEAKER_05 0:50

Walk the walk, baby.

SPEAKER_02 0:51

Walk the walk is in the building. And my special guest in the building, please let them know who you are. Sir. I'm just ready to man. Hey, let's get it. It's what it is. We're gonna do my drink. My B and B mix. Oh, you gonna do the drink?

SPEAKER_00 1:14

We're gonna do the drink now. Much respect to Ross. Shout out to Ross.

SPEAKER_02 1:17

Already, already.

SPEAKER_01 1:19

Yeah, please. Go ahead, bust it. I don't drink, but we'll prepare.

SPEAKER_02 1:23

Yo, Drake, your drink.

SPEAKER_01 1:26

That's okay. We're gonna do the water shot. Okay, that's good. That's good. That's cool. For sure. Give my man respect to the boss.

SPEAKER_00 1:36

The ball bosses worked hard. Just so y'all know when Ross first started, he had that every damn hustle, and I walked up to him and I said, Ross, you're gonna be one of the biggest. And he became one of the biggest. Yeah. That's what I do, you know. That's what I do as a music producer. You know what I'm saying? Slash gentleman. This is for Ross. Many blessings to MNG. I love you.

SPEAKER_02 2:01

Already, already.

SPEAKER_03 2:02

Yes, that's what's up.

SPEAKER_00 2:04

Shout out, Ross. What's up? That's what's up. Yeah. I did say, I did tell him, I did call it before it happened. Yeah, yeah, well definitely. Oh definitely. When he had like just two chains on. He got two H.

SPEAKER_05 2:20

200.

SPEAKER_02 2:32

Go go ahead.

SPEAKER_00 2:33

Shout out big toast to the team for the Papa Zoe show. Without them, this ain't nothing. Keep going. On and on, Papa Zoe.

SPEAKER_02 2:42

I'm gonna let it break it.

SPEAKER_00 2:45

Give him a new name after Talk the Talk. This is my first time meeting him. I already see the energy.

SPEAKER_02 2:55

Already. Well, I need some more bamboo in here.

unknown 2:57

I'll take care of that.

SPEAKER_02 3:00

This is a virgin.

SPEAKER_00 3:01

No, this was a real virgin.

SPEAKER_02 3:04

That's a virgin married. Right there, that's good.

unknown 3:09

He said, don't play that one.

SPEAKER_02 3:10

That's it. That's it. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 3:14

I just don't look it.

SPEAKER_02 3:15

Where are you from, man? Where you from?

SPEAKER_00 3:17

I'm from the bottom. The bottom, but they're called Seneca Ave, Hunts Point. That's where, you know, all the street, the hookers, everything you want to call it. The Bronx. The Bronx. There you go. BX. BX for life. Yeah, that's where I'm from. BX for life. Where the hip hop started. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Most definite. Most definitely. From breakdancing, from robbing, from paint, from jumping in the training. From paint on the train and all that. Actually, I used to paint. I used to um do graffiti with with uh uh scene and shit. Word? Yeah, scene was an Italian styling dude. He was he was at one. So I used to jump on a yo, I did so much crazy. Every time I think about it. You know, the poles that I on the side of the wall, I would jump from the actual station on the pole and slide down just for fun. Just for fun. And ride the elevators in the projects. I was crazy. Crazy, crazy, crazy.

SPEAKER_02 4:08

So, so you now you reside in South Florida. How long you been in South Florida?

SPEAKER_00 4:12

Actually, I've been in Miami, about 10 years, thank God. Oh, okay, okay. Um, I came out here, uh, my son's autistic. He's you know, he's iceberg, and in Orlando, everything was pretty. I lived in Orlando for many times. Right. Many years, actually, and um everything was pretty there, but the appointments wasn't official tissue. So I reached out to Jelly Bean Benitez, he reached out to uh um from the Miami Dolphins, uh oh my god, he's gonna be pissed that I forget his name. It's all good. No, no, it's all good. You know, he's the man, Merino. Oh he reached out to Marino and I said I needed help. He said he had a uh a neurologist named Robert Tushman. So my son didn't talk to like nine years old. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It was crazy. It was on and off, you know, signs and stuff like that. Right, right, right, right, right. Shout out to my son Ryan. Ryan a lot of things. Shout out, Ryan. Shout out to Ryan. Shout out to Ryan. My other son, Ralphie. Um, those are my real Grammys. You know, I don't really have a grand family. Those are my Grammys. And I reached out to him, and then he uh gave me some guidance, and thank God my son can't stop talking. What's up? And he's a Leo.

SPEAKER_03 5:19

Oh, so I'm a walking testament.

SPEAKER_02 5:22

Yeah, that's what's up, that's what's up, man. So, so for the people, for the people, what do you do?

SPEAKER_00 5:31

What do I do?

SPEAKER_02 5:32

Yeah, what do you do?

SPEAKER_00 5:34

First of all, I'm a gentleman. That's it. Okay, a gentleman. Okay and then I make I make music and and I respect people. You know what I'm saying? Because we, you know, I I sit down and I really produce. They got producers that just make beats. Then you got producers like myself, that I do have other people that I work with. I don't front like everybody does, you know what I'm saying? You know, I put in a make, shout out to my my my brother, beat a booze boozer, he's Haitian for you know, all you so out there. For sure, for sure. Um I pretty much sit down and I think about what I have to do. You know what I'm saying? I I come up with a project, I you know, I make the song, I just don't say here, you know, every song I've ever done has been an idea, you know. And and and that's what a real producer is supposed to do. You know what I'm trying to say? Right, right. If I if I see that, you know, they go a certain route, I I make it to that route. For instance, Little Kim, you know, I used the song Can We Curse on this song? Yeah, yeah, yeah. The song's called Suck My, you know, whatever. So I went and I made that beat where she could just uh you know go on it and and and it was for her. And I didn't I didn't want to sell it. That's another thing too. I'm the type of producer that if you give me a word, I'll hold it for you. It's a she hold it for three years. Three years. Yeah, I'm I'm loyal when it comes to that, because I don't chase money, money chases me. I like that, like that. You know, it's very important for these artists. A lot of these artists, you know, they they want to work with you, but I like I like bigger pictures, you know what I'm saying? Because if you love what you do, the money's gonna come. But most importantly, when you come out there and you you really handle your business and you show them you care, like every song I ever contributed, I wanted it done that way. You know what I'm saying? That's that's how you're supposed to really produce. So and then and then I'm I'm big on the youth too. I'm huge on the youth. I'm a group home baby myself. Right, okay, okay. So you know, so don't don't go too much, don't go too much, don't go too much.

SPEAKER_02 7:33

Hold on, hold on, slow down, slow down, Ray. Slow down, really dog. You try to go ready X on the nigga.

SPEAKER_05 7:39

Slow down. Yo, I see you put a lot of emphasis on gentlemen, though. What about you?

SPEAKER_00 7:43

What's your well because my father was an OG, he was a street gangster, and and his attitude was Nicky Barn type of shit. Yeah, he was he was he was that one in Puerto Rico. Um, not that I'm praising, you know, the street scene, but uh, you know, he always taught me three things in life. He said, don't ever mess with nobody's woman, don't ever mess with nobody's money, and don't ever rob them. And and that's a code that I've always raised with. So I'm big on respect, man. Because respect is everything, man. Money loves. It is. I'm gonna say, I know people that are growing and got a lot of respect. I know people that are rich and got a lot of respect. Yeah, so that's why I emphasize that's just that's embedded in me since I was young. Yeah. For my OG. Loyalty, loyalty, loyalty, rest in peace. Yeah, yeah. It's my best friend. We did everything. Oh shit. Excuse me. Under the way, we did everything together. Like that was my that was my dog, man. You know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_02 8:39

So we I don't even want to ask somewhat else. You tell you, I'm gonna leave that alone, because he's a married man. Let me leave that alone. Go ahead, walk, go ahead, walk, go ahead. What you all finna say?

SPEAKER_05 8:48

Who you is now, right? Is it have a lot to do with the old boy?

SPEAKER_00 8:52

Yeah, of course, of course. Um, you know, my mom, I gotta give my mom credit too. You know, she was a single mom. Pop was in and out of jail, man. It is what it is. You know what I mean? You know, most people that gone through what I gone through, uh, their successes for it comes with the success. So I try to, you know, let everybody know that nobody's perfect. And, you know, I had my father's a street guy, but he ran a uh a nightclub after I was, you know, and he had his pods by he was a he was a shoot right on dad, you know what I'm saying? Like he made sure when my sister had a sweet 16, he made sure we had everything. Right, right. So he was that type of dude. But he'll he'll get it in. That's what it is, man. That's what it is, man. And in the streets, we used to one thing he taught me to is feed the streets. Super important. Yeah, man. That's very important. Yeah, I I do it all the time. That's very important. I'm doing that. And my father, we would work at the club uh in Puerto Rico and after I were, you know, that's like six in the morning, make sandwiches and go to the like the federal building where the Fed was coming, the guys were coming out in the streets, and they would actually let them walk up to the people and feed them, and we would give them a sandwich or soda. I was tired as hell. But he always taught me that the streets is everything. You don't get that. The streets is the biggest thing. I always boy, yeah.

SPEAKER_05 10:15

I mean, that's that's the the the biggest, what you how you would say, that's the biggest consumer, what right?

SPEAKER_02 10:21

Yeah, the street. Yeah, yeah, that's it. The street, you you gotta, you, you, you, you gotta, you gotta, you gotta, you gotta, you gotta feed that street, man. Yeah, feed that. Because the street, because I'ma I'm I'm gonna tell you like this, you know. I don't know.

SPEAKER_05 10:36

I I don't wanna I don't really wanna go ahead, talk, talk, OG, talk, talk, talk, you walk them.

SPEAKER_02 10:42

You know, it's like when I was out there in that world, you gotta keep the street right. All the little young ones, the little corner, whatever, whatever or not, you gotta keep them right. Because they the ones that got the eye out for you. Your boy, hey, boy, out here and this, this, this. They're gonna let you know what's going on. So I always make sure that I took care of them. You dig what I'm saying? So feed the street. That's right. That's what my pop said.

SPEAKER_00 11:15

And let me tell you something. Whether y'all wanna believe it or not, I used to wear chains, I used to wear everything back in the days before Cubans had Cubans, you know what I'm saying? Like, you know what I'm saying? I'm 55. Right, right. And um I never got robbed, man. I never I I to my kids, I never got robbed. And it was because I knew how to zone myself. I know when the heat was on. So that's that's just tells you a lot about where I'm at.

SPEAKER_02 11:40

It's it, you know, you you saying that, but you know, that's real because you can't make yourself uh like for people to see all the time. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? You can't make yourself reachable all the time. You gotta, you know what I'm saying? You gotta go where you where you need to go. Not all not where you want to go, but where you need to go.

SPEAKER_00 12:06

You understand what I'm saying? That's true, because you you, you know, you a I'm a brand, you know what I'm saying? It's just like if it's just like seeing a girl you see all the time, you get tired of seeing her, you want to see something else. And in business, it's it works the same way. I learned that at a, I'm keeping real, I learned that at a late age, because I would let me tell you something, people come up to me all the time, like, yo, what do you do? What do you do? And it freaks me out. You're everywhere. Yeah, yeah. And then I look at them and I'm like, you know, if you if you stay home, you stay broke. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? But there's certain places you place yourself in. It's like chess. And if you're in the right place at the right time, that's how you win.

SPEAKER_02 12:42

You know. So you know, uh uh, another cut, you're off. Uh what you say you've been here, you've been here, you've been here about 10 years, you've been in Miami 10 years. Yeah. And I believe like I met you around that around that time. Great story. Great story. Yeah, I got it. I met you around that. That's right.

SPEAKER_05 12:58

But yeah, both here. How many to each other?

SPEAKER_02 13:00

And Nas. We met. Yeah, I was with Nas. That's what we were. We were with Nas. It was a Nas. It was a Nas concert. Yeah. And we met. At Nas concert. Yep. And then we always, we kept it, we kept it. Yeah, we had. Korea recognized real. You know what I'm saying? That's what I'm saying. You know, real recognize reality.

SPEAKER_00 13:20

And let me tell you something. Who wasn't leaving that building without saying what's up to him? Because coming from like my dad, yeah, I already know who's who, I already know what's what. Okay, okay. You know what I'm saying? I'm a lion. I'm a I'm a Leo. I I live in the jungle all my life. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know what I'm saying? Shout out to my Jamaicans, John, all of them. Right, so far, Molly, my brother from another mother. But um, um, you know, and and I could tell. I I know I'm just spiritual like that, and I could see it. And I said, I'm not leaving until I salute him. And I did. That's right. Yeah, yeah. We got pictures together. Yeah, that's right. We got pictures together. Yeah, we got pictures together. Pictures is everything. Pictures don't lie, people do. Yeah. That's my that's my saying. So, yeah, so we we was that concert? It was at the film uh the film um memoir infitator. Infit theater, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 14:10

Yeah, memoir infitator, yeah. That's what it was, yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 14:13

Yeah, that's it was, it was there, yeah, definitely.

SPEAKER_02 14:16

And I was backstage, I was backstage and shit, you know.

SPEAKER_00 14:20

And I was watching everybody act and shit. He was the only, he wasn't the only, he wasn't the only one acting. He was the only one not acting. I take that back. So that's that's where we hit, you know, we hit. And like I said, I'm all about respect, man. Yeah, yeah. Um you're never gonna, if you hear anything about, oh, we just that's nonsense, man, because I don't play that. I teach my kids that, you know, I I live by that. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, you gotta instill that in the kids. Your zone is your zone, your lane is your lane. Facts, facts. Don't cross mine, I'm gonna cross your thing. I'll cross yours, facts. That's it. I'm I'm I'm a gangster in the sense of taking care of my family. That's what I call it.

SPEAKER_02 15:00

Yeah, you better believe it, boy. You better believe it. Motherfucker trying to bring harm to my family, boy. It's coming out. You know, I done put it, I done put it back there in the back, but it'll come out. It ain't nothing.

SPEAKER_00 15:10

I hate to say it, man. Say it, nigga. Come on, man. Come on, man. I hate to say that. I don't like violence, but it's not. Family period. Family period. Family period. Yeah, family's everything, man. Like I said, those are my real Grammys. You know, I don't have a Grammy. I am a Grammy. You know what I'm saying? I like that. You know what I mean? I don't need a Grammy. I don't need flowers. Because I got my own flowers in every color. I like that. Oh, I like that. I like that. I like that. I like that. Shout out to everybody that never gave me my flowers.

SPEAKER_01 15:42

But it don't. But we're giving your flowers tonight, goddammit.

SPEAKER_02 15:45

We're giving your flowers tonight. I want people to know where the fuck your rated art is, goddammit. What was your biggest achievement, goddammit?

SPEAKER_00 15:53

The biggest achievement. I'm gonna keep it real. All due respect to the world, okay? I grew up with Khaled. All right, Khaled was my brother. That's my brother forever to this day, okay? My biggest achievement to me, besides the millions that I sold in records, uh-huh. Get that right, millions. Millions, millions. I heard it, I heard it, millions. Was introducing him to Joe. Fat for fat Joe. Yeah, that's right. That's my brother from another mother. We fight, we argue, that's Joe, man. We love each other. We're Leos. We're then, you know, shout out to his mom, his pops. They, you know, he passed, his mom passed. Loved her to death, Ruby, rest in peace, you know, his brother. He's been through some hard times, you know. He's a strong dude, man. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He's a strong dude. I've been there, you know what I'm saying? We used to ride the vans together, travel with Pun, travel for like eating five dollar meals, you know what I'm saying? So being with Khaled, I knew that I can only do with so much. So I went and I handled my business and I made sure that they met. And look, they're like brothers, and I love it. You know what I'm saying? And I love the fact that I could say that I did that in a beautiful way, you know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_02 16:58

So not so in other words, you discover Khaled.

SPEAKER_00 17:01

I wouldn't say, yeah, you could I I mean I'm just saying, I'm just gonna be. You know, keep it against it. Okay, or you found them.

SPEAKER_02 17:10

You found them.

SPEAKER_00 17:11

Yeah, not only I found him, not only about finding him, I I appreciate him as a little brother. Like, to this day, I don't care about the riches, man. Right. That don't mean nothing to me. What means to me is that me and him can eat dinner together on that table. That's what I mean. So people use the word discover, takes the team. But I'm gonna tell you how I call it. I'm gonna keep it funky with you. The way I call it is like I took him to junior high school, besides his grind, because his grind was impeccable. Right. Right? Joe took him to junior high school. Lenny S, who's Jay-Z's right-hand man, took him to grad school, and he got his BA, bachelor's degree from Jay-Z. That's only fair. Okay. You know what I'm saying? So everybody, so everybody, yeah. So everybody played a part. Played a part. And who he is right now. I'll tell you something. He used to inspire me to trust my drum machine. This this Khaled was like a fire. We were called, uh to tell you another quick story about Khaled, we were called the concert bandits, right? So it's me, Nasty, DJ Nasty from all. Shout out to Nasty. Yeah, shout out to Nasty. He was here last week. Shout out my brother. That's my brother, yeah. Um, me, him, Caesar, and another um Caesar, they were called the uh um, they were called, embarrassing. Um, we gotta rewind this back because we um they were all together, DJ, Caesar, Nasty, and Khaled. So we were called the concert bandit. So basically, every concert that was in town, yeah, we were getting in. You know, we was getting in. And then the lineup was, the lineup was it's so funny. Nasty was like the cool, you go in first. Khaled was like, I'm going in. And me and Callie was like, we both going in. And Nasty was staying back. So, you know, we had a lot of great moments, you know. Shout out to his family, stuff like that. The cat's an awesome family, man. You know what I'm saying? We don't see each other that we see each other when we see each other, but you know, like at the end of the day, man, look what he's done. Let's be realistic. Look what Joe's done. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, and this ain't no jock, you know, this is nothing. You know, me and me and Joe went through the trenches. Like, we, you know, we went to I used to be called Rated All Get the Car. Now I'm getting my own cars. That's what it is. That's what I mean. What's some of the other artists? What's some of the other artists you've worked with, though? I worked with Little Kim. I had the honor of working with Little Kim. I did a song with my other part of me. He rests in peace, mass it's called Suck My Dig.

SPEAKER_02 19:35

How about Biggie? About Biggie. You ain't never, you know, you know, let me, I'm gonna tell you a story about Biggie. You know, I you know, me and Biggie, I'm you know, me and Biggie, we know each other from North Carolina days.

SPEAKER_00 19:45

Yeah, that's mom's.

SPEAKER_02 19:46

From North Carolina days when I used to be in North Carolina doing, you know, doing what I what I, you know, with the whoop with the whoop. And he used to, you know, and we met then, you know, and and and that was a cool ass big nigga. Yeah, yeah, it's a cool ass nigga.

SPEAKER_00 20:02

I gotta make his stories because I was, you know, like a simple dude type dude. Every time I'm around him, and um, I was around with the bad boy team, you know what I'm saying? Back then, you know, Puffy was the one that that got me that, you know, placed that song with Kim. And um one thing I did, my first experience with him was that he called me to mix the record. Back then, he don't he don't call nobody. Right, okay. Puff. Yeah, Puff, yeah. He called me first. He's like, yo, get your ass and mix this record. Second crazy experience with him was his mom was there, Mama Combs. I was like, you know, the song called suck my dick. Like, I don't want, you know what I'm saying? So I so I told moms, you know, because my my my father used to hustle with his father back in Harlem. Okay, okay. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, it's some real shit there. So I told mom, you gotta, you gotta, I can't have you in the studio. She was like, motherfucker, go get your money and shut the fuck up. And I was like, okay, mom. Oh shit. That was all you need to do. Oh shit. She was gangster. She was gangster. So, so that's that's you know, that's that's the beautiful times that I could remember. Yeah. That that made this. Even like a lot of other artists, man, like they would always like come up to me and I listen to them. One thing I don't do in the studio like everybody else does, if the song is the same or the producers the same, I don't be like, yeah, that sounds fire all day. You won't tell the truth. Y'all, for sure, man. I'll tell the truth. Yeah, you know what I'm saying? I I did a joint with Jadakiss. Yeah. And Kanye, this is my first time meeting Kanye, came into the studio, started doing his little, his little shaking, the the what album with the bear on it, whatever. Okay. The workout shit. He started doing the whole thing, performed the whole thing. Right. And I was bugging out because I was like, yo, Kanye, this is my session, you gotta go. You know what I'm saying? But he stood there. I I was loving it because he performed it. So, and this is when he first started. So I knew he was a star. You know what I'm trying to say? Kanye, Kanye. Yeah, Kanye, yeah, yeah. So it was like, and Kanye was uh A heavy hitter, you know, he was a deep, he was part of the heavy hitters back in the days. Okay, okay. Yeah, that a lot of people don't know. So basically, in that studio, like I was saying, studio etiquette is everything. You know what I mean?

SPEAKER_02 22:10

Just like golf etiquette. Yeah. There's etiquette to everything. People don't get it.

SPEAKER_00 22:14

Yeah, exactly. Yeah, that's true. You know, it's having it's great having girls for people that want to have fun. Right. But people that want to make real records, it ain't gonna happen. Uh-huh. It ain't gonna happen. With me, it's not, it's not this is not a festival. This is just, you know, this is artwork. Okay. And and you're good as your last record. So they say. So they say. But I don't believe in that either, so I'm gonna explain to you why. Because you can come up with the best idea for an artist, uh-huh, and they might not see the vision. Yeah, they don't, yeah, right? Yeah. And then what happens is you lost that that that vision. Because they used to people next to them telling them, yeah, this is the one, this is the one. No, no.

SPEAKER_02 22:53

Yes, man. They used to the yes man type of shit.

SPEAKER_00 22:56

And it's important for all you young guys out there, you know, don't change your heart, don't change your soul. Because the money's coming.

SPEAKER_04 23:04

You know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_00 23:04

The money's coming. And I and I and I'm very big on that with the with the youth, man. Like, you know what I'm saying? We we always monitor the music, we're gonna do this, do that. Listen, you gotta go left, man. You gotta go left. Right is not the way because you you're just gonna be a regular person, you know what I'm saying? You're just gonna be another producer. So I so I'm big on that. You know what I'm saying? Etiquette is everything, like, you know what I'm saying? Silent, closed door, let's go. And Nas is like that. Shout out to Nas again. Nas is you ain't you ain't playing. You you if you it's just him and the producer. That's it. And whoever's gonna, you know, the boss, whoever comes in. So so I learned that. Um, shout out to the Rough Riders because D and Y.

SPEAKER_02 23:45

What why you why you love making music so much, man? What? You know what?

SPEAKER_00 23:49

It's in my soul, man. It's my soul. Like, you know what I'm saying? Like, like, like I'm hearing you, I'm hearing you like, you like excited. Yeah, because because it's in my soul, you know what I'm saying? And and and there's people that put their names on stuff and don't touch nothing, right? You know what I'm saying? Oh, yeah, yeah, one of those situations. Yeah, it's good, it's good, but man, we have enough slaves in this world. You feel me? We have enough slaves in this world. We don't need that. We don't need that. There's certain artists that come and take off the top money. That's that's black on black crime to me. You know, we blaming the white man. It ain't the white man. The white man, it's us. It's us, you know what I'm saying? How many times you gotta go back to your lawyer? I never had that experience, thank God. Because I never had that experience to go back and say, where's my money at? You know what I'm saying? My mind, my soul, let you know what we need to do with my lawyers. So, you know, like that's one thing we gotta stop doing. We gotta stop selling each other talk because more inspiration, it's more dedication. Kids look up to us. What we do is what they look up to us. And if we do negative things, they think it's all right. And that's why we have corrections department, we have correction facilities. I was in a group home. Knucklehead, DMX, Car Thief, everything. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I want to touch on that. Yeah, yeah, you know, Car Thief. I want to touch on that. Yeah, he's supposedly he robbed a couple of people. From my understanding, you and DMX was in the same group home. No, but that's right. Children's Village, shout out to Children's Village. That's my heart. I lost my heart. That man was my heart. This is before music. This is before all the people that loved him for his money. This is for this is when he met his wife, his first wife. I was there. We spent four years. And basically, he was left at Children's Village. And he met me first. And it's like, for those who come to jail or went to jail, and you meet that one person, I'm gonna hold you down. And I should be like, yo, we're gonna make it. Don't worry about this. When my mom's coming back, don't worry about that. She's gonna come back when she has to. Wow, you know what I'm saying? And I took care of him, and we became brothers. Um, it's crazy. Like, my mom wanted to even adopt him. It took me to that point. Shout out to my mom's, the queen, and um, she wanted to adopt him because it was just so much. Man, my man X was incredible.

SPEAKER_03 26:11

I see.

SPEAKER_00 26:12

When I tell you he was incredible, like he always preached to me. He always, you know, we used to pray together. We cried together. We cried together because we wanted to get released. We knew we had this thing. You know what I'm saying? I was fortunate to do one song called Uh-huh, Here We Go Again. It was one of the biggest diss records. Besides that, was against the. Oh, you did that song, Here We Go Again? Yeah, we did that. That was you? No, not Here We Go Again. Uh-huh, Here We Go Again. It was diss and Beanie. Remember, say I hate too many Beanie Max. That was when the war was going against Rockefeller and them. So Ether was the top song, and then Jada Kiss was the second one because he was killing them. You know, you can't mess with Jade. Shout out to Jada. He gave me my first break, you know, my song with Moss, my friend who died. May you rest in peace, Moss. We had this on. So, so we had the biggest disc record. I never forget I'm in the MTV Awards. And Sway's like, yo, so what does this mean? He's telling X, like, what does this mean? Because you know, he he he shot at Jay-Z. He shot at Jay Z. You know what I mean? He said, What does this mean? So he's like, I don't know, ask the producer. So I was like, Are you kidding me, X? Like, you know what I'm saying? But that's just X. You know what I'm trying to say? X was X was a person that that um I see that wall that felt like. You go, you good, you good. That's the spirit. That's the spirit. That's the spirit knocking out. Because everywhere I go, he's behind me, man. He's behind me. That's what it is. So and and and then uh one other great story about him is he used to have asthma. So we used to run away. We call it AWOL in the group. So we would run away to his grandmother's house, jump on the tray, eat. But X had asthma. So every time we would run away, we would get caught because you gotta stop slowing down. Slow down. And I was like, yo, come on, man, let's go. So we yo we were running, we were on the trains and all that. It's called the Metro North. So we used to travel the trains, and then and then we would come back, eat his grandmother, Mariella, make sure she rests in peace. And we would come back like nothing and walk in there like nothing. So it got to the point where we were getting caught too much. So I was like, X, man, you gotta fix it. So you know what he does? He goes to the infirmary, he says, Come on. I said, We can't go nowhere. He says, Come on, no, you're gonna get caught. I ain't messing with this. We're gonna get caught. Anyway, nah, I got this, I got this. We go to the infirmary. He starts going coughing like he got asthma. Oh, man.

SPEAKER_01 28:33

You gotta put it on the back. I'm expressing it. I'm expressing it.

SPEAKER_02 28:38

Take a break. We're taking a break. Let's take a break. Let's take a break.

SPEAKER_00 28:50

Where we left off, that's over X. So he goes in front of me, he starts. And I'm like, I ain't going no with you. He goes, Look what I got. He shows me a pump. Oh shit. So I was like, all right, pump, we good now. So every time we ran down the mountains and stuff like that, a sole member of the Power Way, we would go, he would go, shh, shh, shh, and we were good. And we never got caught from that. So that was the great story of me and X, besides the fact of sitting and you know, being in a room recording with him and stuff like that is just crazy. You know what I'm saying? I miss him to death, you know. And the funny thing is, when he was on his way out, he went to the Drake Champs, he went, we were all together, and he was thanking me so much. And I was like, why? He goes, nah, you know, you helped me write things that I don't, you know, really didn't know how to do. And I love you for that. And I never really paid that. So don't pay me nothing. You know what I'm saying? Just pay me with my respect. And he was like, cool. And then the next day, we're gonna do a song. And two days later, he caught COVID. He went out to Atlanta, and that shit broke my heart from then on. You know, I had to I went to the hospital. I got to experience stuff that a lot of people didn't experience, and I was just praying for him, and then I lost it. It was crazy. And I didn't go to the um, all due respect to his whole family, his mother Anna, you know, who I love to death, his parents, regardless of what they did, it don't matter. It was for his well-being, you know what I'm saying? A lot of people, you know, when I went to the funeral, a lot of people like trying to hear from her. But I told her, this is some real shit. I said, Anna, you birthed that gentleman. Okay? So you don't worry about nothing or nobody in this room. Okay, because you birthed him and you worry about me. Because I'm the one that loves you and him. And that was done. That's it. So that was that was some real that's just me, really. Gangsta shit. Yeah, that's that's where I come from. Gangsta shit.

SPEAKER_02 30:47

Read it out. You really, you really, you really that nigga, man.

SPEAKER_00 30:50

I don't want to be that nigga. I just I just want everybody else to pull the trigger. You know, I'm I'm not everybody, you know, like Swiss with I I'll give you a quick when with Swiss, Swiss was signed to a uh Ferrari.

SPEAKER_01 31:04

Swiss Beach, Swiss Beats, Beach, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 31:06

My my my ace, you know, Swami. And um he was signed, he was signed out, and I would go to an like the Porsche, because I know he liked Porsche. So I would go to the Porsche and they gave us a glass thing, a glass, uh a souvenir, but he can't show his face. But I went out, I said, let me get one for him. Because I know he likes Porsches, you know what I'm saying? So I brought it to him. You know what he said? One thing I love about you, you think about everybody else before yourself. That's real. And you can't do it. I saw you can see.

SPEAKER_02 31:36

I say, let me tell you something. Yeah, I I got a saying that I I be saying I don't believe in self-preserve preservation, I believe in people preservation. That's my saying. You know, that's a problem with the world right now. Yeah, all we think about is self, self, self. How about the people?

SPEAKER_00 31:52

Yeah, you know what I'm saying? My my saying is for the record, I gotta kept it ready too, by the way. Unity builds empire. You know what I'm saying? Unity builds empire. If we as minorities would focus on that, we can be like Ross, we can be like all the people that have company. Jay-Z, all of them all of them. Yeah, Jay Z, all of them, you know what I'm saying? Jay-Z does his thing, whether we like it or not. You know what I'm saying? He's he's with the right people. Yeah, you know what I'm saying? Did he too? He's going through what he's going through. Yeah, he's going through it, you know. That's what I'm saying. He's coming, he'll be back. A lot of people that's another thing. Let's let's let's let's talk on that one. Yeah, you know, nobody's perfect. Nobody's perfect. I got cousins that are gay, I got cousins that are drug deals, I got cousins. We all.

SPEAKER_02 32:38

We all got something going on.

SPEAKER_00 32:41

That nigga a freak. So fucking what's a lot of cause and controversy on yo, your man this, your man that was you at those parties. That's not my business, and that's not your business if I was. My business is that man cut me a check when I needed it. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. And he never gave me the runaround. So whatever he does in his own time, that's his business. I can't be just as a as a baby. I still keep in touch with him, whether people like me or not. I really don't care because at the end of the day, nobody's perfect. We that that man needs help. That's all he needs. Yeah. And we gotta pray for him. And this is gonna cause controversy. I already know it, and I really don't care. Because the truth is, we he needs help. And that's all we gotta do.

SPEAKER_05 33:24

And and who in here say that they don't need help? Man, that many politicians do the same thing.

SPEAKER_00 33:29

Same shit, man. Same thing. And they go free. Fuck that. They say the same thing. So that's just my, you know, preference to God, help him, get become a better man, a better person. Better father, better. Like, you know what I'm saying? He was an amazing father, you know what I'm saying? And um, like I said, he never did nothing wrong to me. Never. So-called came on, I mean, none of that nonsense. Just hit him, my father and his father were doing their thing in Harlem. So he had a different respective. So I can't say nothing.

SPEAKER_02 34:11

We back. Before before we take off, shout out the marsh.

SPEAKER_05 34:14

Shout out to my boy Marshall.

SPEAKER_02 34:15

Shout out to Mars, you know what I'm saying? Big, big, big, big, big sponsor of the show.

SPEAKER_05 34:20

What G, what Mars mean?

SPEAKER_02 34:21

Making a real sacrifice. How about that? Oh, shout out to my new, I'm my new brand that I'm brand ambassador for, smoke cigars. Dio just got signed today. So I'll be repping smoke cigars. Smoking number of smoke cigars. They're gonna be on here. They're gonna be here. Smoke cigars. Congratulations. Haitian-owned Dominican made. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 34:52

That's what it's what it is. Oh, yeah. By the way, I am Dominican and Puerto Rican, and I'm proud. You mix them. I'm motherfucking Haitian, all the way, goddamn Haitian.

SPEAKER_02 35:00

Not American, Haitian.

SPEAKER_01 35:06

That's what it is. That's what it is. But I do got sick of cell trait. So that comes from Africa.

SPEAKER_02 35:11

Now you were talking about, you said something about off the camera. You said something about Pac. Oh, yeah, Pac. Nigga, who do you don't fucking know, nigga? Who you've been working with? Let me tell you about Pac.

SPEAKER_00 35:20

That's right, Pac. That's that was my ace too. He's from the Bronx. He's from Gunhill. People don't know that. My grandmother used to take care of my brother when he was young. And the mother Anthony would go out and do. He came from the same area. And Pete Rock, if I'm correct, Pete Rock was in the same area, Gunhill. Pete Rock's, shout out to Pete Rock. He's an amazing producer, slash gentleman. He got, you know, his father got a job in Wall Street and shit. Then they moved to Mount Vernon. Rockingham. That's where Heavy D, shout out to the Heavy D, yeah, Mount Vernon. Big shot. You make your good money. From my understanding, this is he's in Wall Street. He worked at Wall Street's father. And he went and they wanted his kids to be in a better area. So with Pac, I was very close to Pac. Controversy, all that stuff. I loved him. But at the the truth was, he was too wild for me. You know what I'm saying? It was too, too wild. And um he was a real kind-hearted person, you know what I'm saying? And he looked strong. Like people didn't know him. I know him. I'm on a documentary for the outlaws. So it'll show you a picture of me and him. Yeah, yeah. When, you know, we like this. Like I got the best picture of him. That he'll never basically tell him that we fuck the world. And shout out to Steve Lobel, who put me on that documentary. Um, and that was my homie, you know what I'm saying? That was my homie, and and he always told me, you know, controversy causes money. Used to tell me that all the time. Controversies cause money. You know what I'm saying? That's true. Just remember that. And he always gave me a hug and he told me, you keep going. You keep going.

SPEAKER_05 37:00

And you know what I noticed about Ray Italy? He's not only family-oriented, he's people-oriented. Yeah, yeah. That's why he put me on that show.

SPEAKER_00 37:07

That's why we became friends because I'll say it again. Like, I don't care how much money Kyler has. I had so many laughs with him. So many great shit.

SPEAKER_05 37:19

What do you talk about? Well, DJ Nasty was talking about that.

SPEAKER_02 37:22

Relationship is better than money, man. Money. It's true. Better than money. Niggas don't get it, that shit. They take money. Money is everything. Money, uh, money, money. Nah. Them space.

SPEAKER_05 37:33

The memories be, it just, it just means so much more. You know what we like he just said. We could he sit back and just laugh about the stuff. We ain't gotta be sitting back like, damn, this nigga, he don't, uh oh, he he he tried me by for $100,000, $150,000.

SPEAKER_00 37:47

Stuff that you really have. War stories is old, man. You know what I'm saying? Like I said, I give credit. Like I give credit when it's due. Let me tell you something. I learned a lot from Joe. You know what I'm saying? Like, people don't know that, but I was day one with him. You know, we had we were in a van going all over, promoting, eating, you know, like I said, five dollar plates. You know what I'm saying? Exactly. So, so I learned from him. So why should I be denying that? Like, that's real shit. That's priceless, you know what I'm saying? And just like with Kelly, he motivated me from touching that machine more than I was supposed to.

SPEAKER_05 38:24

You know what I'm saying? Don't sleep. He's an ill producer. That's what we do.

SPEAKER_00 38:27

Do not sleep on that Khaled. Oh. He has it in him. Nasty too, and then his brother, they landed, they beast. You know what I'm saying? And um, so you know, don't I I gotta I gotta give credit when it's due. You got to. You know what I'm saying? My man produces. Like, my man get it in. You know what I'm saying? I think he's at a point in life where he lets everybody else get in. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? And I feel the same way at that point too. You know what I'm saying? I want everybody, I don't care. Everybody has to get their credit on my my on my um. I think it's oversaturated now. I think 20 people, 10 people on a beat is crazy. That doesn't make no sense. Yeah, yeah, let me, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 39:05

How do you feel about how do you feel about five producers on one record? How do you feel about that, yeah?

SPEAKER_00 39:13

It's so funny. I was thinking about going on a show. This is a topic I wanted to touch. Yeah, like it don't take that much to make a record proper. It don't. You know what I'm saying? It don't. Is it cool? But you know what it is? This the people are not as talented as they're supposed to be. So they have to do it. They have to get like 10 people on. You know, because it the creation's not really there. We don't care no more. Listen to the music back then and listen to now. You know what I'm saying? You could throw something at somebody just because they have a name and it's on.

SPEAKER_02 39:45

And it's gonna, yeah. That's it.

SPEAKER_00 39:47

A hook, a hook, a hook, and a verse. Yeah, and and and I'm good at this calling records. Let me tell you, Rihanna had plunder replay. Yeah, I knew she was gone. I told her. I met Ross, I told you when he did hustle, I know he was gone. You know he would go. I know he was gone. Like he was gone. I already knew that. I met, I went to the BET Awards, I took the train because they had a car for me in California. Yeah. I ended up getting, I want to see Englewood and stuff like that. Besides, I used to go to Englewood to my man Mike Concepcion and all that. Um we used to be go out there a lot. But I wanted to take the train so I could see the hood, right? And I was walking, and before I got to the to the um to the venue, BT was I bumped into um Bruno Mars in the lobby. That's just my spiritual. And he had one record. I said, um, amazing or whatever. The amazing, I think it was his first record. I said, man, it's over. It's over. It's over. Because you, that's what I do. That's one thing I regret on a regret um, but it's never too late. Yeah. Because I got something in the oven now. But um, it's being an AR. Like, you know, I always wanted to be an AR. Shout out to Gotti. Gotti taught me a lot too. You know what I'm saying? Irv taught me a lot. So I gotta give him credit. A lot of people thought we're related because we look alike, kind of we resemble. And they're like, nah, you don't want, you don't wanna um you you don't want to tell people with family, but you're really family. We know you are. I used to get that from him and DJ and U. Shout out to G and F and the heavy editors. And um, they were confused. But um, you know, when you learn from certain people, man, you can't forget them, man. At least I can't. You know what I'm saying? That's real. All my people that's real, all my all my counselors at the group home, Hazel Beckford, Mama Santos, who X was close with, Henry Drafton, these are group home, these are group home counselors, uh staff, man, that just made it happen. Yeah, that keep you out, that keep you saying that keep you out on line. That keeps in line.

SPEAKER_05 41:41

He took so much from so many people, man. Yeah, yeah, that's what it is. With with what he already got himself, just made him. I mean, because he's a state.

SPEAKER_02 41:48

Like a fucking melting pot. He like a melting pot.

SPEAKER_00 41:51

You know what I'm trying to say? People, people say, uh, you know, he's he's a captain, but I don't care about that, man, because God knows. But I'm just saying, there's always gonna be that oh, he'll be a little bit. That one motherfucker, yeah, the captain. Like I said, like I lost a lot of people, man. I lost Lindsay. These are these are people that that helped me become the man they am. Besides my mom, my sister, who's there for me as a as a shout out to my sister, you know, my grandmother, who's 93 years old, still rocking, telling me thousands of times. I remember used to buy me this, buy me that. I used to buy groceries. You know, I used to always pack bags. I had three jobs. I was out at 16 doing it. You know, I got my first drum machine, I sold Puerto Rican flags at the Puerto Rican Day Parade. So I bought them for like canals me to a dollar. I sold for like four, and I ended up getting my first machine. Also, crazy story too. Um, um, from uh what's his uh Scarface. We were we were promoting the diary album So Crazy.

SPEAKER_05 42:49

Oh man, that one never.

SPEAKER_00 42:50

Yeah, we were promoting VIP record pool. But I shout out to Alpazar. We were driving around, and as we driving around, I hear pow. It was on 47th Street. 47th Street, we were at Sam Ash. So my man Scarface didn't like, didn't have money, and at that time I was smart on video. I had my American Express. Don't leave home without it. So he was like, he's like, yo, I don't got the money, but can you can you purchase it for me? I was like, yeah. So I purchased, he goes, why don't you come with me to Houston? I don't fly, but you know, so you can teach me how to use a machine. And I was like, I was like, I said, no problem, we'll we'll figure it out, you know what I'm saying? But pay me my machine, then I'm going. You know what I'm saying? So they they pay my machine, but the shots that were fired was when Tupac got shot. I just show you how crazy this franchise is. And we were here. You heard that? It was me, Al Pizarro, from VIP Record Pool. It was also uh um um Mike Concepts Young. You know, he's he's one of the bosses in LA on a wheelchair, amazing dude. Much respect. Shout out to Mike, I haven't seen him in a minute. I hope he's well and healthy. But we were all together, and what we heard was bah bah bah. And it was it. That was the day that he got shot. So and and I was a block away.

SPEAKER_02 44:06

That's that we got shot up in the studio.

SPEAKER_00 44:08

Yeah. Yeah, it was crazy. And and but you know, I thought nothing of it. You know what I'm saying? We didn't, we didn't, we I didn't think I was just a New York, another day in New York. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? No one didn't. And that was that was it.

SPEAKER_02 44:22

And then what's crazy, New York got such a strict gun law. Oh, yeah. That shit, but that shit don't mean nothing over there in New York.

SPEAKER_00 44:28

It don't mean nothing. It's sad to say, you know, guns down. You know what I'm saying? It should be like that. The youth is going crazy.

SPEAKER_05 44:34

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 44:36

You know, just being organic. Um Me, Joe, and Raul were bored one day. And we were bored, Raul, rest in peace. We we lost Raul. And we lost Full Flex, MTS. Rest in peace support for the both of them. Two gentlemen, hardcore dudes. Um so we were bored, we were bored, and we're like, let's go out. So Joe's like, let's go out. So I had my little BMW. I was ready to all get the car. We was chilling. Pun used to be in my car all the time, too. You know, he used to be in, yo, I'm gonna hurt your shocks. I'm like, nah, don't worry about that shit. You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? Don't worry about that shit. You know what I'm trying to say? So we driving, we're bored as fuck. So he said, you know what? We're gonna go to the tunnel now. See, people talk about the tunnel. The tunnel was that shit. If you didn't know anybody, you had to stay still. Okay? You had to stay still because everybody was gonna get got if you didn't know you. It was wow. It was the the darkest club you can ever go to. So me and Joe were bored, and we're like, let's go, bro. I was like, let's go. So we go. So we end up meeting Ice Cube there, right? No, Mac Mac 10, Mac 10. Mac10, okay. Mac 10. And you know, at the time, Mac 10 was beefing with Ice Cube. Ice Cube, right? They were going through whatever, whatever. Yeah, check this moment out. And this is true facts. You can ask Joe. Like they say. So we chillin with Ice Cube, I mean, with Mac 10. All of a sudden, Ice Cube walks in with Easy E. Yeah. So now this they have beef. So you know Joe's the peacemaker. The peacemaker. He tried to squash it that night. That night, and it was crazy because it was so tense, you know, like Mac is this, Mac is that. Two days later, Easy E dies. Yeah, you tell me I don't belong in hip hop. You belong in hip hop. You know what I'm saying? You belong. Like, you know what I'm trying to say? You tell me I am hip hop. I am hip hop.

SPEAKER_02 46:38

You wanted to pioneer.

SPEAKER_00 46:39

I used to DJ, definitely. I break dance, I wrote, I had everything. I loved music. I was I lived in Bronx River where hip hop started. Shout out to Soul Sonic Force and all that. I was that's another place. So to have those experiences is amazing. Um, what's his name? Uh um Nipsey. We went to store Club Story. He was cooling, we chilling, we having fun. Let me take a picture. Nah, cuz you family, you folks, cuz. I'm like, let me take a picture. Nah, he was he was, you know, a little too much. We never took the picture. Two days later, he died. You know what I'm saying? So when you're a good thing. So he didn't want to take a picture. Let me tell you something. When you're a great person, you have a good spirit, it's not about the cash. God's gonna let you visit people that you that you respect and love before you go upstairs. Don't ever forget that. Same thing with money.

SPEAKER_01 47:35

I like that. I like that.

SPEAKER_00 47:35

You know what I'm saying? So it's about music, it's about soul too. You gotta soul. I can walk anywhere around. I'm not scared. Because I ain't do nothing to nobody. I don't owe nobody no. I ain't sleep with nobody's wife. I ain't do, I ain't cross nobody. So that's what it's about. Yeah. And then the music. You know what I'm saying? Face.

SPEAKER_05 47:57

Clean face. There you go. Shout out to my man Tess Loop.

SPEAKER_00 47:59

He just face signed me too. His name's Cleveland.

SPEAKER_02 48:02

How you feel? I'm gonna ask you this last question. How do you feel about more questions? How do you feel about these record exec, right? That this old ex this old you know, exec that's in the game. Yeah, this man. They don't want to give nobody else no chance.

SPEAKER_00 48:23

How do you feel about that, man? Because they try to, it's like they trying to Yeah, yeah, yeah. I don't I'm not for that. I'm not for that. You know what I'm saying? I don't care how many years you've been in a game, yeah, there's always somebody else that knows a little more.

unknown 48:36

Right?

SPEAKER_00 48:36

Give somebody a chance. Give somebody a chance, you know what I'm saying? Because all they're really doing is sitting in the office and everybody else is doing it, and they're getting the credit. And they're getting the credit. You know, you know what I'm saying? So I believe that's probably why I never became an AR. Besides, I never slept with no man, so I guess that's you know. You know what I'm saying? That's probably why they get promoted. Let's be realistic. That's what's going on, right? Keep it real. Women is the mother of all man, you know what I'm saying? I'll tell you. To me, at least, you know what I'm saying? So my thing is like they need to get those people out of there that did their time and give it a time. You know, basketball players do the same thing. I'm not gonna say names because they're but they're good friends of mine, so I can say like they always take, you know, let the other one breathe, man. Let them breathe, let them get in. And that, and that's and that, and and let me tell you something. I'm doing business with somebody right now that's super big. And um discovered a lot of people. Um, and I'm gonna be honest with you, I love them to death, but I got ideas too.

SPEAKER_02 49:44

Let me let me let me ask you. Are you still so are you still product? Are you still coming up with beats? Are you still because I got an artist that I'm that I'm you know what I'm saying, I'm dealing with. So you still making beats and still doing your thing?

SPEAKER_00 49:58

Yeah, I you know, I come I come in and out, yeah, because I'm a family dude, you know what I'm saying? I come in and out, but if it ain't healthy, I'm giving it up, man. So it's like how you come. Paperwork is everything. You know what I'm trying to say? And like I said, we have a lot of in Miami too, is so much talent. A lot of talent, bro. A lot of talent. There's so much talent here. You know what I'm saying? And and and we gotta learn to open up, you know, and and give some people chances, man. Because at the end of the day, man, we all need something to eat. You know, we need money, we need clothes, we need, you know, we have families feasts. And and let me tell you something. I truly believe, like, when you bring people, you you multiply without intent. You know what I'm saying? And like you said, those people in charge, man, let me tell you, like I said, I I I don't care what your name is, if you come across to me. I learned in this business, like I used to fall in love. Meaning I had ideas for music with artists, and they didn't do the right thing because they don't have the vision, right? So I learned the only thing I fall in love with is my kids. You know what I'm saying? My my two Grammys, Alfred and Ryan. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. And my queen that takes care of them. That's it. That's all I need. You know what I mean? So I learned that. And like I said, it's time for those people to get out and let get the honey. Yeah, they know what they're doing. They sit there all day. And enough is enough, man. Go go retire, go go. Go retire, go chill, go in the Bahamas, go to Jamaica. Enjoy your money, go relax. You know, um, and and and and just let let the new come in and do what they do. Because let me tell you, I'm telling you, I don't turn down nobody. When I tell you that's one thing, I may not be the one with 60 records out, I may not be with 70 records out. Because there's people that I'm doing better than people with 70 records out. You know why? They ain't handle their business. Think about that. Fame gets you ass and tits. That's all it does. Fame gets your ass and tits. That's what I say it. You know what I'm saying? You know what I mean? That's what it's about. You know what I'm saying? But paperwork, you become a bread. Yeah, it gets you that bread. You know what I'm saying? And that and that's why I say, like, like I'm I like that. I like that. You know what I'm saying? My house is almost fully paid, and it ain't a cheap house. Why? Because I handle my business. I got people that got records bigger than me, and they live in in the basement. Not that I'm better than them, but Jesus, come on, man. Get it right.

SPEAKER_05 52:32

Get it right.

SPEAKER_00 52:33

You want to take out a woman, take out your attorney. You know what I'm saying? Take out your attorney. Buy him a watch. You want to buy somebody a watch? Forget about Gucci and all that. Buy him a watch so that when he comes in that room, he defends you. Show them that. You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? You ain't got this probably the first show that it's a walking book. I'm a walking book when it comes to business.

SPEAKER_02 52:57

I like it, though. I like it.

SPEAKER_00 52:59

We forget about that part. I don't want to hear. Talent is good. You you're good. You can let me tell you, I got in the studio, I could hit that. Before I was talking, I was uh you know, I had my system ready going for the next record. You could have 20, but you could have five good ones. I've got good ones. Bone Thugs and Harmony, shout out to Steve Lobel, uh Wake. Um I did um um Thug Always and Sass Songs 1999, sold two million copies with my man Moss, Rest in Peace, and DJ Nassi did Dug Always, so from Orlando. So you know what I'm saying? My name is big. They ain't no, they ain't no, they ain't no, they A-list players, and I'm I'm I'm content with that. You know, my son, he's like, Dad, you gotta stop going for these old guys, right? This was like two years ago. Just the other day, he calls me, he goes, Dad, man, I'm into the 90s now. Because the music is just saying right today. He's 60 years old. This is Germany that was, you know, head stroke, like, stop there. Because I enjoy doing music with the with the new people, like you said. What better is you can walk into a room and say you're part of that history. Names is names is just names, you know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_02 54:09

That's your Sam's That's your Sam's son when I was on the phone with you. When he said that if if you don't get invited to eat dinner with somebody, you ain't no friend. Yeah, you didn't. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 54:20

You ain't family. Oh. You ain't like you ain't family if you ain't eating in the table together. You ain't family. I hear this all the time. Like, yo, but you know, your family, you family. Nah, man. We ain't family until we eat in the table. And then we go to the bank. You know what I'm trying to say? Facts, facts. Because like I told him, I said, when I man, I'm after this show, I said, I don't want to just do the show. I want you to come over and have dinner with me. I'm gonna cook for you. That's some real man shit. You know what I'm saying? And that's the problem we like we we have. We just don't know about relationships. Relationships is everything.

SPEAKER_02 54:56

And you know, and you know, I'm doing something, I'm doing a get together. You're always supposed to be on the 20th, but it's we switching it to the 20th, to two, to the 20th, to eight, to the end of the end of the month. I'm definitely having you coming through. Yeah, I love doing it. I'm definitely doing that. I love doing it.

SPEAKER_00 55:13

I'm gonna go, I'm gonna start. You know, people want keys to the city. I don't care about the keys to the city. It'd be nice. I got keys in my pocket to my to my house. To my crib, yeah. You know what I'm saying? But but I want to help the youth, man. I want to go to jails and talk to them. I was wrongfully accused facing 38 years in state prison for something I didn't do. What I did, I took my money and hired a Jewish lawyer, whether we like it or not.

SPEAKER_02 55:39

And they won't get you off.

SPEAKER_00 55:40

And got me off, and the perp struck again, and they caught him. But I had to sacrifice, like you said, I had to sacrifice money, not do, oh, I don't want to pay this lawyer, dah da. Yo, I'm free, man. 38 years. I was facing 30 years in prison for 28, 20, uh 38 counts of robbery one. Never robbed nobody, never did nothing. And I beat it. Thank God I had to go to the star team. You know what I'm saying? Thank God. You know, and um, as far as what I got going on now, because I know you was gonna ask me that, I'll let you ask me that I won't cut you. Yeah, what you got going on now? I got I got a I got a big, a big artist, right? And I'm teaming up with somebody very prestige and knows what they're doing. His name is I Am Tomorrow. I am tomorrow. He's from he's Toronto. He's from Toronto. Okay. My man tomorrow is no joke. Yeah. He's a touch of Robin Thick, Justin Timberlake, and the weekend.

SPEAKER_02 56:42

All together. All together.

SPEAKER_00 56:44

Yeah. And the story behind that is he was at a vicinity 10 years ago to 11 years ago. And and I and he was there with it wasn't the right situation. I had walked outside. I was in the studio with Scott Storch. I walked outside, I met the kid, and he was special. And I said, You ain't ready yet. Come in 10 years, come see me. Do you know that that the one I'm talking about now? Originally his name is Alex Price. Yeah. Right? He he reached out to me and said, Yo, I need help. I said, let me hear what you got. He got it. He got it.

SPEAKER_02 57:20

He got it.

SPEAKER_00 57:20

Yeah, he got it. So if all goes well, paperwork's right, my partners is right, which I know they will be because they're, you know, this gentleman, I ain't gonna say what it is because he's very prestige, and I don't, I never really asked him permission to use his name today. But um, it's on. It's on and popping. What I didn't do that I should have done is coming now. And it's never too late. It's never too late. But this kid, I'm telling you now, I'm telling you now. Watch out for this white boy. You said white boy. My man redid Marvin Gaye, right? I played it for an executive. Okay, like I said, I ain't gonna say it. And the first thing the executive said, he's white. And he did the Marvin Gay song. I never forget this. And the other one on the phone was a big executive. It's like, why didn't you bring him to me? But again, it's not about that. Who what you know who you feel that you do. And this individual, God give him, it's gonna be Batman and Robin. So shout out to Alto. Don't ever be afraid to also go out your work. Yeah, go out your comfort zone. You know what I'm saying? Watch your comfort zone because like I'm from the Bronx, but if I'm in Miami, you see I got a Miami. It's not where you're from, it's where you at. You know what I'm saying? Am I Bronx here? Yeah, for sure. 130%. I was born in Bronx, Lebanon Hospital. Can't get more Bronx than that. So you know that's what that's what it is.

SPEAKER_03 58:49

That's what's up, man. That's what's up, man.

SPEAKER_02 58:52

Read it R. I want to definitely came in.

SPEAKER_04 58:56

Right it are though. We're coming back. Read it off.

SPEAKER_02 58:59

I want to tell you. I appreciate you for coming to an approach. So, hey, listen, what do you mean you coming back? Nigga, you this is ain't nothing. I'm gonna phone call away. I know all you gotta do, you get whatever you got going on, nigga. You wanna come back?

SPEAKER_00 59:12

I can't forget nobody.

SPEAKER_02 59:13

No, you coming, you coming on the 28th. Yeah, yeah. 28, we're doing something for the fellas. Yeah, we are. We're here we're doing something for the fellas.

SPEAKER_00 59:20

See the other side of the world again. Oh, yeah. Um, yeah, okay.

SPEAKER_02 59:22

Hopefully, you're on the 28th, because we're doing something for the fellas. I do stuff for the fellas on it. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 59:27

Yeah, that's another thing, too. You got all the we ain't taping on. Oh, I was. This is very important. This is very important. Be whatever it is. We tend to want all these women on the boats. Let them women cook stay home. No disrespect to Queen right here, because Queen is Queen. But let them stay home, do what they do. Let's sit down as men. Figure out. That's what I like to do. I don't like the thing. I don't like I don't like that. We inspire. I don't like that. I don't like that. You know what I'm saying? There's so many. I've been around. I don't like, I don't like none of that. This for the fellas, man. Like, like, like, I've been here this long, for whatever reason. I've never been on a boat. The only boat I've been on is a cruise with my kids, which I love.

SPEAKER_05 1:00:09

Right, right, right.

SPEAKER_00 1:00:10

But you know how many boats have been sailing here with all these whatever they call it. Exactly. You know what I'm saying? Sit down with a brother. Let's figure out how we could build a tower, an empire. We too cool for that. We too cool. We want the look. You know what I'm saying? Stop. The look ain't nothing. It ain't nothing, man.

SPEAKER_05 1:00:31

Is the creativity that we all could come bring to each other, man? Like you always say, Papazo, use me. You know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_02 1:00:38

Use me, but don't abuse me and misuse me. Yeah, exactly. Don't abuse me for me. Figure it out. Like, you know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_00 1:00:42

Give you a little, I give you a little. Hey, hold that play, there's that place so we can do that touchdown. But we gotta stop that, man. We really gotta get on them boats and just have men and forget about all that booty shaking and all that. Because that's you could do that at home.

SPEAKER_05 1:00:56

Just pick up. You know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_00 1:00:57

I ain't I shout out to my queens, you know, they do what they want, but at the end of the day, we got business to take care of you. You got business to take care of. Yeah, and and and that's that's real shit. Like, we haven't done that. We haven't really sat down and said, you know, let's forget about the queens, let them do what they do on any time. Let's get it so that we can have more and teach our queens to build. You know what I'm saying? Like, it's crazy. Exactly in the in the stars and the pieces and the netflies. Yeah, man. It's like we, you know, that's crazy, man. These boats pulling out. And what we see is men.

SPEAKER_02 1:01:28

We gotta come back and double back, man.

SPEAKER_00 1:01:29

Yeah, it's all good, man. I'm here for you.

SPEAKER_02 1:01:31

I appreciate you, man. I'm here for you. Appreciate you, man.

SPEAKER_01 1:01:34

You're my first time meeting you fucking with my brother love over here over there on the Papas O show.

SPEAKER_00 1:01:40

Legend over there.

SPEAKER_02 1:01:42

That's what it is.