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The PapaZoe Show
The Papazoe Show is where Miami culture, real stories, and powerful conversations collide. Hosted by city icon Papazoe alongside his day-one co-host Walk Da Walk—a brotherhood built long before the spotlight—the show brings raw authenticity, wisdom, and unfiltered energy straight from the heart of South Florida. With roots stretching from Haiti to Miami, Papazoe’s journey through the streets, the music industry, and mentorship circles gives the show a perspective you can’t fake. From guiding rising stars to building relationships with major names, his experience sets the tone for conversations that go deeper than surface-level talk. Together, Papazoe and Walk Da Walk create a space where real voices are heard. From local artists and entrepreneurs to celebrities, politicians, and influencers, every episode taps into the culture, the grind, and the truth behind the headlines. Directed by Adrian Ferg, with production by HiiighCriteria Productions and Cordero Media, The Papazoe Show is quickly becoming one of Miami’s most impactful platforms—giving the city, and the world, something real to connect to. Powered by brands like Sovereign, Belaire, Bumbu, and SMARC Cigars, this isn’t just a podcast—it’s a movement, a network, and a voice for the culture. Tap in. Stay locked. This is The Papazoe Show.
The PapaZoe Show
57 GUTTA
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Jules no jatsail jääk.
SPEAKER_02What up, what up, what up, what up? You already know it is. It's your man, man, Papa Zoe, the Papa Zoe Show.
SPEAKER_05It's your boy Walk the Walk, man. Walk the Walk is in the building, baby.
SPEAKER_04Oh, ready.
SPEAKER_05Yo Zo. What that is in the cup, man.
SPEAKER_0457 gutter.
SPEAKER_05Who?
SPEAKER_0457 gutter.
SPEAKER_05Say it loud now. Say it now now.
SPEAKER_04Yo, yo, gutter. Before we start off, man, please do me a favor and pop this bottle real quick for me. Yo, this is right here the gutter. Yo. First question, right? Where the 57 gutter come from? That name?
SPEAKER_00Why that name? Yeah, that's a that's a chain game, long story.
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, but that 5'7 come from the street I grew up on. 5'7, that's a street I grew up on. Caused a lot of hell on. You know that gutter. Niggas done gave me that in prison. You know what I'm saying? They said I was like a gutter nigga real from the gutter. You know what I'm saying? I'm gonna keep it real by any and everything. No faking. That's what it is. You know what I'm saying? Like that. That's what it is, man. It just stuck with me. Everybody started calling me that. 57 gutter. 5'7 gutter. 5'7 gutter. 5'7.
SPEAKER_04Not 57. 5'7. 57 gutter. I done fucked though. I told him. I say 57 gutter, man. It's 5'7 gutter. Forgive me, man. Forgive me, man.
SPEAKER_00They get the picture.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, yeah, that's what it is, man. That's what it is. So uh what where where in Dave County, Miami, you from?
SPEAKER_00I'm from out the sub. Yeah, I'm from out that sub, brown sub area. I grew up right there in the sub. Then I migrated to the city. You know what I'm saying? So I be all over. You know what I'm saying? But I'm from out that sub.
SPEAKER_04Where my baby mama from. That motherfucker. Yeah, that motherfucker was crazy. That motherfucker drove me nuts. Yeah, yeah, yeah. They over there now. They over there. They drove me nuts, boy. That goddamn girl there. You know, I ain't mess with no zoes. I love them yanks. Yeah, you love them yanks. I love them yanks, man. She was, you know what I'm saying? Yeah, yeah. Man, she drove me nuts, boy. Damn. Boy, look at him. Yeah, man. So uh let me uh let me let me let me let me ask you something, right? I see I seen you, you know, at the car show. You know what I'm saying? We met, you know, we we talked on the phone, we hollered on, you know what I'm saying. We met face to face at the at the car show, man. What kind of feeling you had about that car show, man? What kind of vibe you had off that car show?
SPEAKER_00I had it, it gave me a nice good vibe. Like, like, like everybody was vibe and mingling and networking, you know what I mean? That's what I'd be on, on a nice good vibe, good energy. You know what I'm saying? There was a lot of toys out there. I liked I liked the scenery, the whole setup. The whole vibe was nice, you know what I'm saying? Yeah. Talking to everybody, meeting everybody to the console, to the concert, you know what I'm saying? Right, right, right, right, right, right. It was just overall nice. Overall nice. That's what it is. That's what it is, that's what it is.
SPEAKER_04Oh, you go you going back next year.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, I'm gonna go to the house. I'm gonna have my toy out there.
SPEAKER_05Yeah, oh nigga, we're gonna have our toys. A couple of them is it. But we're gonna be out there. We're gonna be out there.
SPEAKER_00You know what I'm saying? Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_05I can't wait to go out there and see the one he got out there now. Yeah. Oh, yeah, you can't wait. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, you know, you you you know, you a you an ex-vert boy, you know what I'm saying?
SPEAKER_04You know, you had that. Well, you had that. Well, he had a hard one, boy. I said, I said, yeah, when we got, you know, we both did time together. We got out of prison. I I got I got out in 99. Okay. He got out, you got out beginning 99. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know what I'm saying? I came home. I nigga blessed me. And we just and we and we had just met now. Just met. We met in we met in the fed.
SPEAKER_00That's how I be.
SPEAKER_04We met in the fed, and then ever since then, my nigga. Locked in. Locked in, my nigga. Day one. That's why I say he my day one.
SPEAKER_00That's real.
SPEAKER_04You know what I'm saying? He my day one, and then we've been locked in ever since, dog. I came home. Boy, what's up, boy? You good?
SPEAKER_06Mm-hmm.
SPEAKER_04No. Hey go.
SPEAKER_06Hey go, you know what I'm saying?
SPEAKER_04You know. Man, so you know, hey man, and I nigga had that vert. I I stayed in that for a boy.
SPEAKER_02Let me move that first boy to city real quick. Move that vert boy going to city real quick.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, man. Ain't look like them verts, man. Boy, them first. Boy, I'm ride with the S. I got I had to escalate that flip color. You know what I'm saying? And I had the Haitian bike. I had a Haitian bike too. You know what I'm saying? But you ain't you gonna catch me in that vert, no vert. You gonna catch me in that vert, boy, because I'm always top never stay up. Never, never stay up, man. So uh how was it growing up in the city, man? How was it growing up over there?
SPEAKER_00It was wild. It was wild. Especially the area I grew up in. It was wild. You know what I'm saying? Just like any other hood, but I think we was really like, we was more off the chain, man. We was really in that gutter, you know. Came up in that era where you had to be in the house when the lights, the street lights come on. So it was serious then. It was rootless. How old are you? How old are you? Me, I'm 37. Oh, you young.
SPEAKER_04You my son's age.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, I'm 37.
SPEAKER_04You my son's age. My son 38. Yeah, you might know my son, man.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, I probably do.
SPEAKER_04I know my son. Yeah. I know him. They call him, they call him what King Zoe. That was his rap name, King Zoe. Oh, yeah, yeah. I remember him. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He ain't doing the rap. Nah, I talked to him, I talked to him yesterday.
SPEAKER_00I remember that name.
SPEAKER_04I talked to him yesterday. Yeah, Kentucky, man. I got married, settled down. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? And shit like that. So he up there, man. Doing good. Yeah, he's doing all right.
SPEAKER_05He's doing good, bro. Yeah, he's doing good.
SPEAKER_04You know, married two beautiful kids, you know what I'm saying? Yeah. Got a house, bought a nice little house up there in Kentucky. Hey.
SPEAKER_05What got you in the music though, Gutter?
SPEAKER_00When I got out of prison, I had got into the music thing. I had to find something to do. You know what I'm saying? But I ain't really want to get into it. But one of my homeboys got me got me into it.
SPEAKER_05Right, right, right.
SPEAKER_00You know what I'm saying? Because I was in prison with them.
SPEAKER_05But was the talent already there before before prison?
SPEAKER_00Or you you you established it like damn, you you Yeah, the talent was always everyone really, you know, my thing, you know what I'm saying? It grew on me. Right, right, right, right. You know what I'm saying? But when I got out, my homeboy kid Cash had got me into it, cause he was rapping. You know what I'm saying? Me and him was in prison together too. Okay, he was showing me little pictures of him doing shows, you know what I'm saying, and stuff. So he was like, bruh, just try when you get out. You feel me? Like this was going on. He tried. I'ma see what's up. But I ain't never do it, you know what I'm saying? I was doing other things, you know what I'm saying? But when he came home, you know what I'm talking about. He got on you, he got on. Yeah, he got on me. We went to the studio for him to record at my cousin studio. It was BBMG Studios. And on we was in there, I was just chilling, vibing. You know what I'm saying? He was like, man, come on, get on the track. You know what I'm saying? Try. I'm like, nah, I'm straight, bro. I ain't no rapper, I ain't been into all that, but no. I'm backing you. You could, you feel me? Yeah, yeah, bruh. Just try it right quick, bro. Write something, get on here. You know what I'm saying? Like, we ain't going nowhere. Oh shit. You want them all boys. You wanna, yeah, you one of them all boys, yeah, yeah. So I'm like, all right, the song was called Go Hard, my first ever song I got on. You know what I'm saying? I wrote something. I got on there, you know what I'm saying? He was like, all right, go on to try it, man. Record. Went in there and I recorded. You know what I'm saying? It started from there. That's how I got into it. You know what I'm saying? From that song right there. Yeah.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, that's what it is. Did you did you get you grow up with your both of your parents?
SPEAKER_00Did you nah? Nah. My mama passed when I was like three. Oh, damn. So I ain't really like know my mama. My auntie showed me pictures and was telling me stories, but nah. My old boy, I never knew who he was. I don't know my old boy. You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? So my when my when my old girl passed, my auntie took me in. You know what I'm saying? Okay, okay. Stopped me from going to the shelter, you know what I'm saying? She took me in when the old girl died. You feel me? But I had my sister. I grew up with my sister. She was like, my sister was like 10. I was like like eight, but she had passed. She was older. Yeah, she was my older sister, yeah, yeah, yeah. But she had passed too. Then for a couple months after her, then my grandma passed. Damn, man. Yeah, so it was like how. And you was young at a young age. Yeah, I was young. I was young. Yeah, I was young. I was like I was three when my old girl passed. My sister was like ten. I was like eight when she passed. And a couple months after my sister, then my grandma passed. So yeah. Yeah, yeah, you definitely.
SPEAKER_05You think I got twelve years old, man? He already experienced three major tragedy. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_04Damn. Yeah, I I yeah, yeah. Five seven gutters. You had to get it, you had to get it. Yeah. You had to get it, boy. You had to get it. Any means necessary. You had to get it, yeah.
SPEAKER_05Oh, it's definitely tell the truth, he got so many um ways you can go after experiencing them things like that. You know what I'm saying? So you feel me? Just him sitting right here, you know what I'm saying, it's a blessing, dog. You feel me? Just sit sitting right here.
SPEAKER_04It's a blessing. God is great. God is great, boy. You know what I'm saying? I look, I look at it, some of the shit that nigga been through. Me and him together, and shit that we been, we like, damn, we here. You feel me? We we we escape a lot of shit. You know what I'm saying? And but it's it's like we're in peace right now.
SPEAKER_00Yeah.
SPEAKER_04You know what I'm saying? It's peace. You know, my main thing right now is our grandkids, our family, you know what I'm saying? So that's what it's about. Yeah, that's what it's about. I ain't got nothing against nigga out there still getting it, nigga. Get it. Get it. You feel what I'm saying? Get it, nigga. It's still in my blood. You feel what I'm saying? Once once that shit in your blood, it's in all your blood. It ain't going nowhere, you feel me? But you just, you know, as you get older and wiser, you make better decisions. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, real tough decision. You know what I'm saying? Tell me anytime when you anytime like when you felt like you had opportunity, right? You know what I'm saying? To do something, for something good to happen. And but you ain't do it and you miss out on it. You feel like you miss out on it.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, a few times. I ain't do it. Elaborate, why was it?
SPEAKER_04Or is it too deep? It's too deep now. We ain't finna talk about it now.
SPEAKER_00One of the situations, okay. Okay, okay. One of the situations, but but another situation I had an opportunity to like, like to take the music to the next level. I had an opportunity, but I was really like, cause like I say, when I got into the mute, I grew up like, man, like, I ain't with the cameras in my face. I ain't got to get the city. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Right, right, right, right. I mean, even this nobody's gonna be able to do it. Even this is my homeboy, they were like, bro, you gotta start doing that. You gotta start doing that. I'm coming out the shell a little bit, but I was never on there. We're sure how we living with it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. What we're doing. That's a fact. That's a fact.
SPEAKER_04Nah. You know what I'm saying? A lot of people be like, you know, I sometimes, you know, I I shock myself that I'm doing this. Yeah. And my son got me into this. My son got me into this in 2016, 2017. We used to own a uh uh uh a radio station called K What Is Your Radio? Yeah. After him. I named it after him. And then he was like, he was like Pops.
SPEAKER_03Won't you have a show on the won't you have a show? I said, man, I ain't on that, man. I ain't on that. He said, he said, yeah, have a show with the with the you know with the Haitians, with the you know, Haitians and in the in the you know in the the the island music.
SPEAKER_04So call, you know, so I say, I say, yeah, I say, yeah, he said, yeah, man, and call that the Papazo show. It was a Papazo Island, Highland music show.
SPEAKER_00Music show.
SPEAKER_04I got a lot, you know, the Haitians ain't come to like they're supposed to come to. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Remember what they ain't come to and I didn't suppose so it's like I like man, fuck them shows.
unknownFuck them.
SPEAKER_02I love them to death, but god that they try to I said, man, let me go fuck with my yanks. And I switched that bitch up, man. And that's it.
SPEAKER_04That's what 2017, here it is. Yeah, he's on the city. You know what I'm saying? God is great, you know what I'm saying? You know, he he been with me since then. He broke off for a little bit, you know what I'm saying? Then he came back home. You know what I'm saying? It's just four years right here. Yeah, okay. It's four years right here with this team right here, you know what I'm saying? So, yeah, man, it's a blessing, man. It's a blessing, stick with it. Yeah, you know what I'm saying.
SPEAKER_05Sometimes you gotta um come out the box a little bit, you know. Take a little peek, but like he said, man, I wasn't I knew I wasn't with that camera, man. Yeah, so when I got out, niggas say, hey man, if you want to stay out here, boy, stay, don't don't be in no cameras, don't be on no phone too much. Stay low profile, you feel me? So that's the mindset to be young, even though a nigga got doing other things, right? But that same mindset is still was there, you feel me? You know when that got me, you got me in this like man, yo man, come on, man. I did, I didn't know.
SPEAKER_04I got him to this shit right here, you know what I'm saying?
SPEAKER_05But um, yeah, man. Sometimes uh you just got to branch off sometimes, though.
SPEAKER_04That's good though, that's good though. You you know what I'm saying, because you definitely you definitely gotta, you know what I'm saying, gotta broaden your eyes and gotta be out there. You know what I'm saying? Gotta gotta rub your shoulder with people that work. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, yeah. Yeah, there you go right there.
SPEAKER_00My boy told me that too when I ran a tour and chopping it up. He told me that gave me some game on that too. Like, yeah, well, like move around more, come out a little more. You feel me? You know what I'm saying? I salute my nigga crazy.
SPEAKER_04But I'm gonna tell you one thing though, but don't make yourself too accessible.
SPEAKER_00There you go. That's another thing I know too now. You know what I'm saying?
SPEAKER_04Yeah, don't make yourself don't don't be don't be that don't be that don't be that artist. Don't be that artist, you know what I'm saying? But my nigga 5'7 gotta be everywhere, my nigga. I see that nigga everywhere, my nigga.
SPEAKER_00Nah. Nah, that ain't never been me.
SPEAKER_04Nah, you feel me? Yeah, yeah. Once you come, we once you come out, you wanna be once you come out.
SPEAKER_02Damn, why you been at boy? What's up, my nigga?
SPEAKER_00You know what I mean?
SPEAKER_04That's how exactly.
SPEAKER_00They always say, man, you never want to go nowhere but the block. Yeah, man. But the block and the jets. That's it. That's where I'm at. That's why I was.
SPEAKER_04What's up though? What what what what what let me ask? Which artists in the industry, you know what I'm saying, that would you would like to work with?
SPEAKER_00That's in the that's that's from day. That's from day. From date. From day um, I work with shit. It's a couple of them I rock with, because I be seeing a couple of them they rock with me. They be writing me, you know what I'm saying? So that's a couple of them I rock with, like Trick, you know what I'm saying? I rock with Trick, I work with Trick, you know, Fat Boy, Rose. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I gotta drop something with him. Yeah, yeah, it's coming, it's coming. It's coming, yeah. I want to work with Raw, you know what I'm saying? Raw's on Greasy. Yeah, you know what I'm saying? Bird. A lot of these, you know, I know them. They my niggas, man. Bird, Bird Dice. Yeah, Bird, yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_04Bird got a song with my son.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_04Seventh trait. All I ever wanted was a seventh trait.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, it's it's man, it's a couple of artists because a lot of them rock with me, and I rock with them too. It's just that, you know, our paths be busy, you know. Yeah, the timing, just the timing, it's all on time, bro. But it's all love, you know, all we gotta do is say, come on, just set it up. Yeah, we'll go. You will go.
SPEAKER_04About Mike Smith.
SPEAKER_00Mike Smith, too.
SPEAKER_04You give me, you give me a Mike Smith, you give me a Mike Smith vibe.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, yeah, Mike Smith.
SPEAKER_04You give me a Mike Smith vibe.
SPEAKER_00I rock with Mike Smith. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, Mike Smith.
SPEAKER_04I definitely want to hear, I definitely want to hear a couple of your joints. You know what I'm saying? I definitely, you know what I'm saying.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, that's a good idea.
SPEAKER_04I definitely want to hear a couple of your joints. You feel me? So what what what what song are you you you putting out an album? You put out an EP or what you or you just put out singles.
SPEAKER_00I just been dropping singles, but I got a lot of songs that I can make a EP. You know what I'm saying? But I just been dropping singles. Singles all you need to drop. Yeah, I just all that EP shit. Yeah, yeah, but you know, you don't want to get too much. Yeah, you don't get too much. Yeah. No, exactly. At the back. At the back.
SPEAKER_04So what what what what what uh what song right now? What what song right now you pushing right now?
SPEAKER_00Right now, I'm pushing that pending cases. Yeah, okay, they've been rocking with that pending cases.
SPEAKER_04Did you send you send you send that to me?
SPEAKER_00Yeah, I send it to you. Yeah, that pending cases.
SPEAKER_05I like the title of that alone.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, they he yeah, he's gonna be. I need a refill. You need a refill.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, yeah. Appreciate it.
SPEAKER_01Y'all know niggas, yeah.
SPEAKER_00I've been wrong with that.
SPEAKER_01Freedom smackers, nigga. Y'all know niggas, for hey case, medications got my nigga about that you all.
unknownThat you all you speak and told for eight case and medications got my nigga button that you all.
SPEAKER_01That you all don't for education, got one big fine that you all that you won't, oh egg, pick the cases, got one big fight that you won't.
unknownThat you all know what given to your head, all your head, you know the free shop.
SPEAKER_01Every time you get that state, over fight, giving this by the shit, nigga.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, that's that that's that, yes. That's that player shit. That's that play shit right there. That's that player shit. Oh, yeah. That's that player shit. That play what else what else we got? What else we got? Uh uh uh uh What else we got? Drop something else. That's that player shit. That's that give me like that big mic. Yeah, player play that big mic shit. Yeah, yeah, that play of shit. Yeah, that play shit.
SPEAKER_00Yo, listen.
SPEAKER_04And I live, how long you say you've been rapping?
SPEAKER_00Yeah, yeah. I'm gonna say about seriously, taking it serious, probably like nine years, ten years. Yeah.
SPEAKER_05What do you think? Well, no, that nigga hard. That nigga. What what it is with what it is with good, right, is that um that nigga bringing back that that old game.
SPEAKER_04That that that gangsters like what I just told you. That nigga give me that big mic. That big mic shit. That big mic vibe, man. See, niggas don't rap like that no more. Niggas wanna that boy, that hard man. I like that. I ain't gonna front. I like that. That shit brings me back to the shit that I like. Yeah. The shit I like to hear.
SPEAKER_05What I came up on. You know what I'm saying? You go. I mean, that's what I came up on. I ain't I'm I'm gonna keep it real, though. I'm here, I hear a lot of music. Man, them niggas ain't saying nothing. Yeah. At least with with with with I mean, I can feel the passion in in his music. I can feel the passion. I could feel he ain't capping when he talking.
SPEAKER_00Yeah. Oh five, seven guns.
SPEAKER_05It don't sound like he capping. He ain't saying something like, okay, that just sound good. He talking and you like, damn boy, that nigga like make you be like, damn boy.
SPEAKER_04I'm about that. I'm about that. I'm about that. That boy that hard man. Yeah, I like that. I like that. Which artists, other than day county artists, you would you like to that you would like to do something with? Out of side of day.
SPEAKER_00Oh shit. It's a couple of man. You know, whoever, you know, whoever's willing to work with me, let's work. I see. I see. I see. If they 100, let's get it. Let's get it. You know what I'm saying? There you go. You know, I work with on I rock with that boy ESTG. Yeah, you know what I'm saying. Um, who else, man? Gotti. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Got it.
SPEAKER_04I see you do, I see you, I see you do something with Scarface. Yeah, face.
SPEAKER_00I'm finna get the face with the book. I see you do something with Scarface, boy. It's a couple of years. I see you do that with face, boy. A couple of them now. I listen to I rock with now. You know what I'm saying? Boosie. You know what I'm saying?
SPEAKER_04Yeah, Boosie Nice, Boosie Nice.
SPEAKER_00There's a couple of them now. I want to work with. You know what I'm saying? I won't mind. You know what I'm saying?
SPEAKER_03What's the single you pushing anyway? Which one of the single you pushing?
SPEAKER_04That on Penny Cases. Penny cases. That's one, right?
SPEAKER_00Yeah. Okay. Pending cases. Yeah, he got his own lane, man. He got his own lane.
SPEAKER_04Penning cases. He got a case pendant. He could have got his own lane. Yeah. Most definite. He got his own lane. Most definite. Most definite. I'm feeling it. I'm feeling it. You know what I'm saying? Look, look, look, okay, look. You looking right now, right? Five seven five seven girl. What you what you what you would like for your legacy to be like. Okay. And your you know your your your future to be like. And the music.
SPEAKER_00And the music ain't what I want it to be like. What I'm looking like. Successful. Successful. Longevity. Longevity. Successful. Successful longevity. Longevity. Wealthy.
SPEAKER_05What one thing can't be taken away from you.
SPEAKER_00Yeah.
SPEAKER_05Huh? What one thing that can't be taken away from you?
SPEAKER_00What's one thing that can't be taken away from me?
SPEAKER_05Yeah, it can't be taken away from you.
SPEAKER_00See, man. That can't be my my my my my dignity. My respect. My realness. You know what I'm saying? Can't nobody never take that away from you.
SPEAKER_05No money ain't nothing gonna be able to take nothing. Nothing.
SPEAKER_00My respect.
SPEAKER_05That's what's up right there, man. So I'm telling you, dawg. So that's what's up, man. Dog, niggas don't gay that up, man. Yeah. Niggas don't gay that up, dog. That's real. Real talk. They don't give it up.
unknownYeah.
SPEAKER_05In so many ways. The way it's so subtle. You feel me? That you don't much know you did it.
unknownYeah.
SPEAKER_05Like, boy. Or she standing over you. Like he said, man. That man.
SPEAKER_04You want to you want you wanna ask a real nigga that. Exactly. You know, because the shit done change. A lot, man. The shit done changed. The shit done got. You know what I'm saying? For me, for me, for me coming, I can't, for me coming from Haiti at a young age. I came from Haiti when I can't, I I was I've been here since I was six years old.
SPEAKER_00Yeah.
SPEAKER_04First place we moved was Lil Haiti, was 57th Street. You see, Northeast. Second half.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, yeah, yeah. You're in Lil Haiti.
SPEAKER_04You feel me right there. You feel what I'm saying? 57th Street? 57th Street.
SPEAKER_00Okay.
SPEAKER_04I went to school.
unknownYeah.
SPEAKER_04Lil Haiti. I graduated from a private school right on right next to Silver Palm.
SPEAKER_00Yeah.
SPEAKER_04Archbishop Curry know the name. That's where I graduated from. You know, it was a private school. So I mean, I'm writing them, I'm right in the thicker, you know, in a thicker thing. You know what I'm saying? So and and then like I I is is one thing that I in life that I regretted is that I dropped out of college. That's the only thing in life I regretted. I ain't regret going to prison, boy. Yeah. Going to prison, boy, made me a beast.
SPEAKER_00Turned me into a boy. I learned so much. I learned so much from that motherfucker. So much. So much more talk. So much. Learned so much. You know what I'm saying?
SPEAKER_04You can't be in there. You know what I'm saying? And then just like you gotta, you, you, you, you gotta learn. That shit made me, like I said before, it made me a better everything.
SPEAKER_00Yeah.
SPEAKER_04A better friend, a better father, a better, it made me a better everything. You know what I'm saying? Because when you sit back, my nigga, you them folks telling you when to get up, when to eat, cha cha, cha- ta. All that bullshit. Right. You know what I'm saying? You can't, that shit there, boy. I mean, discipline. Yeah, it definitely discipline a nigga.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, it definitely gonna teach you that. You know what I'm saying?
SPEAKER_04Discipline a nigga, man. You know what I'm saying? And boy. And then that's why I love, I love when I when I when I when I'm talking to people who been where I've been. Yeah. Cause we can relate. We can relate. Some of these niggas, nigga, y'all can't relate, man.
SPEAKER_00No, they can't.
SPEAKER_04But I ain't I ain't I ain't nothing wrong that you ain't been there. That ain't nothing wrong with that. You ain't been there. Because, you know, some people they be, they could, it's possible they've been doing a lot of wrong, but they just ain't getting caught. You feel me? They still got that, you know, that you know, got that mentality. You know what I'm saying? But yeah, but I I love to, you know what I'm saying, to have a conversation with somebody that walked in my shoes, that I walked in their shoes, you know what I'm saying? Like you like, you know what I'm saying, walk, you know what I'm saying? And shit like that, you know what I'm saying? You know, a lot of similarity, you know what I'm saying? Stuff like that. What what which label? If you want, if a label, if a label, a record label won't, you know, want to sign gutter. 5-7 gutter, which label would you like to sign with? Out of town label or any type of label.
SPEAKER_00Any type of label. Um I'm on mine, like I say, man, go back to what I was saying. Like, I'm gonna I sign to whoever that that got that business and order that got the business right. Right. It gotta make sense to the to the both of us, to the both parties. You know what I'm saying? Whoever talking, talking them numbers right and that and that paperwork right, right, right. I'm rocking with them. You know what I'm saying? I ain't really got no Pacific long as long as we come to agreement. You know what I'm saying? I'm open to all types of labels, you know what I'm saying? But I I I won't mind. I I won't mind working with MMG, Fat World, yeah, yeah, yeah. I won't mind working with Rosie, man. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He's doing good things over there.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, you're doing a lot of things.
SPEAKER_05Gee, if they got if his he if it's about his best interest, yeah.
SPEAKER_00That's it, uh, yeah.
SPEAKER_05You know what I'm saying? If if it's if you making sure that I benefit off this here, yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_04That's it. Well, I'ma eat, you gonna eat, we gonna eat. Exactly. You know what I'm saying? Like you said, none of that shady shit.
SPEAKER_05None of that fine print, none of that none of that shady, you know what I'm saying?
SPEAKER_04A lot of niggas be with that shady shit.
SPEAKER_00Pretty what it is. I'm open to any label right now and talk. Talk, yeah, talk. You shit right. Y'all tap in with me, man. Yeah, you know what I'm saying? Mmg, boy. Atlanta, you know what I'm saying? Like I say, I rock with them boys, CMG, God it. Got it, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, I like what they're doing. Yeah, got it, yeah, got it, yeah. Got it serious over there.
SPEAKER_04About Rock Nation.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, yeah, yeah. Them too. The nation too, Rock Nation. Yeah, man. Like I say, I ain't got no Pacific ones, man. Let's I'm open. You know what I'm saying?
SPEAKER_04So you when you drop, when you drop, when you drop your music right now, so what who you drop it under?
SPEAKER_00Under, I just drop it up under, I do independently. Right, I know, but which one? United Masters. Yeah, United Masters, um, what it is, what else? I put it out through on Distro. Distro, Spotify, all the platforms like that. You know what I'm saying? I put it out through they through their little outlets.
SPEAKER_04What you what you what what would what what do you see yourself or what would you like to see yourself two years three years from now?
SPEAKER_00Um way further than further ahead than what I'm here now. And with a with a with a good maze, decent deal for me. You know what I'm saying?
SPEAKER_04You got any kids? Yeah. Definitely wanna, you definitely you definitely want to do it for them kids.
SPEAKER_00You feel me?
SPEAKER_04Wanna be able to yeah, yeah, yeah. That's what it's about. You know, like I like I always tell people, I said, it ain't about me, because I'm going. The young, the youth coming.
SPEAKER_00That's what it's about.
SPEAKER_04It's about the youth.
SPEAKER_00Yeah.
SPEAKER_04Me, I'm going, man. You know, I I done feel me? You know, I'm not gonna say I done lived my life. God still bless me to keep you know, keep living and all this and that, but I done, I done went through a lot of shit. Yeah, and did a lot of shit that niggas ain't dream of doing. You feel what I'm saying? So, you know, but it's it's it's a blessing, man. It's a real blessing.
SPEAKER_05Is that is that well, well, you got to ask like how do you handle the pressures and the demands of your success? You feel me? Yeah, it's it's it's it's it's it's growing. I mean, it's it's it's the start, but but you you you a success story already, you feel me? So it ain't like, oh yeah, he ain't there yet. Nah, you there. So that's why that's why I'm asking that question. Like, how do you handle the the demands of your success? You feel me?
SPEAKER_00Yeah, I mean, I handle the best way I know possible. I I just I I give it to God, man. I like that. I talk to God about it, what's going on, and I stay prayed up. You know what I'm saying? I and whatever happened, how I handle it, you know what I'm saying? He gave me the strength to handle it.
SPEAKER_04That's it.
SPEAKER_05Just to keep him free. Keep him free. 5-7 gutter. Look. I open that book, right? It's a dictionary. I open that book, I'm just reading, right? Yeah. And I see 5-7 gutter. What name is gonna identify 5-7 Gutter when I look at that dictionary?
SPEAKER_00You look at that dictionary?
SPEAKER_05Yeah, but I see 5-7 gutter. What's the definition of 5-7 gutter? All the right from the bottom.
SPEAKER_02You got the dictionary, you gotta look at the dictionary. That's cool, that's Google. What is when you go fast ever, what that shit's gonna say?
SPEAKER_00Yeah, realness, loyalty. You feel me?
SPEAKER_02We wanna hear it. We wanna hear make sure the people hear me. What is loyalty, man?
SPEAKER_00Real loyalty, it's solid. You know what I'm saying? 100 all the way around the board, no matter what.
SPEAKER_05All day, boy. I rock with good, boy. I rock with God. Listen, man.
SPEAKER_04Hey, so uh hey, I I don't know what to say. I really don't know what to say because it it's it's like for me to interview you right now, and and then knowing that, you know what your thought process is about the camera, about this spirit, and for you to be able to open, you know what I'm saying? Open up, you know what I'm saying? Yeah, open up, yeah. Like this, so that's that's big. My main thing is when you come to this show, is you feel at home, you feel comfortable, you're able to open up and just vibe. Just vibe, yeah. You know what I'm saying? That that that that's that's my main thing. And then I I I I hope that I was I was able to do that.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_04You feel what I'm saying?
SPEAKER_00Yeah, I feel at home. It was a nice vibe. You feel me?
SPEAKER_04Authentic. That's one thing you're gonna get.
SPEAKER_05Definitely gonna be more. Because as as the boy blows up, we're gonna, hey, hey, hey, come too. Hey, come over here, you come too.
SPEAKER_04Can you come bless us?
unknownI got you.
SPEAKER_04I got you. And you know, hey, hey, hey, Rose, hey, hey, you heard you heard him be saying MMG, that's his he like the MMG talk, Rose. So hey, I'm putting it out there. And he he gangster with it. He gangster with it. You know what I'm saying? So man, is that I before we, you know, we we we we we close off. Is that anything you want to say, you know, you wanna you, you know what I'm saying, you wanna talk about?
SPEAKER_00Talk about.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, anything off your cranium, anything off your cranium. It's all on you right now. It's all on you. You got the mic.
SPEAKER_05Whatever. It's all on you right now. That's your camera right there.
SPEAKER_00Right there. Yeah, yeah. Oh, let's see, man. I ain't really got too much to say, but you know the regular man. Shout out to all the real ones that behind me that support me. You know what I'm saying? Shout out, shout out to all my niggas, the family. You know what I'm saying? Free all, free all the real. You know what I'm saying? That's it. I ain't really. That's what it is, man. Hey, you keep it real.
SPEAKER_04You keep it, you keep it, you keep it a thug, nigga. You keep it real. That's what it is, man. But man, gutter, man, I appreciate you, man, for stopping through, man, on the show, man. It's all love, man. I can't wait for this just to go up next week, man, my nigga. That's what it is, man. Yeah, you already know. Oh, love. For sure.